Both my main accounts banned again w/o any warnings, and now im 110% sure i did nothing wrong. Wtf FC doing?

     my account with ***** got banned too...

     I'm banned too

     Really WTF...

     if FC counting switching orgs for tower attacks as bannable exploit, they shopuld ban ALL omni twinks long time ago...

     all who was in SAV got banned...

     ban here as well Oo

     Did people who not switched orgs (***** & *****) banned also?

     I didn't switch org, or petition, didn't do much cept tab Q. I don't think I've broken a rule in my life. FC have lost the plot :/

     So what 'exploit' we use? or attacking omni towers its exploit now?

     Account banned too.

     No mail still for me ^^

     Infonet, Gimpybot, Phatznet all down

     froob account just banned.

     In that case, when my account is unbanned, I want the people who petitioned me suspended - as it's they who should be unable to log in, not me.

     FC is on crack, it got certain now................

     That they even *believe* these idiots! I hope they get all banned themselves.

     ***** stated that he will refrain from attacking towers fro a few. dunno who is ***** but xcould be the one that managed to get ya banned.

To [*****]: you could have at least a little decency and balls to wait till fc sorts it's shit out
[*****]: soz i will
[*****]: didnt know
To [*****]: rgr

     Great... at least some people have brains still, even omni.

     FC seems to have lost their brains, if they had any.

     now FC deleted LoR thread also.

     Wtf he mean? what ". In the instance today it was intentional abuse of the system to ensure they did not have to defend what they had just won. "???

     At least we know what the exploit is now, changing orgs for tower fights.

     Who were the two people who didn't change orgs and were still banned?

     Did you guys let 1 org do damage on the CT and come back a hour later and let another org take it down? So first org could place in 75%?
     Else I don't understand this.

     "In the instance today it was intentional abuse of the system to ensure they did not have to defend what they had just won." - That got nothing to do with org switching.

     What does this mean? Were we not standing there waiting to defend? o.0

     I didn't org switch, and it was the first tower site I hit today, and I got banned.

     I have a wild theory.
     A GM was trailing *****, since he's just unbanned. He saw him swap orgs to not open GV. You take a base down. ***** logged ***** and placed after the 20 minutes with GV.
Is this what happened?

     Nope, not a single ninja today, all placed in timer, all attackable, this is so complete bullshit (what sill says that is)

     no man... we were changing org for do damage on CT and place right after CT down...

     That ban crap happens after we took down Sav1 ct and BEFORE ***** planted ct by Genesis (and got 25% gas ofc because Genesis attacked).

     We not used any tricks for getting 75% gas instantly, all towerspots today be placed by orgs who did damage and we got 25% gas for first hour (xcept tlr where i got 75% by bug, always happens at this spot).

     So its TLR issue. isnt it?

     ***** wasn't at TLR so can't be.

     I wasnt there neither was eating while you did that land

     They dont care about that. They banned those who were at the time of petiton processing in the "instance" imo

     Had to be sav cos that's the one i missed cos i had to log. And i'm only one not banned.

     Only me and ***** attacked tlr, so cant be. Rest even not be online in that time.

     And anyways that base revert to 25% shortly after place because ill attacked Clondyke9/sav1 by GV general char

     This is gonna be interesting i think hehe .. aparently i have violated the ROC when i placed a tower on the base .. ROFL

"We do not suspend people for honest mistakes."
- I didn't train
- I didn't org swap
- I didn't petition anyone
- Was the first base I hit today
     All I did was turn up for a TW, hit assist and Q, and I was standing there with half a dozen other clanners waiting for the ct to be placed ready to defend for an hour when I was kicked off.

     Silirrion is lieng around atm, but its clear that he doesnt have a clue for wth u guys got banned.

     Im banned on the forums :p

     Omg, they just making it worse with every move they make :D

     /me gonna lay low a bit. FC got some drugs or something. They going crazy.

     All we have to do is wait 1 week and petition the mofos back when they even start to hit a tower with anything.

     tbh i dunno if it's worth actually trying to speak to omni and get some kinda of unification on this, if they can be trusted - it's happening to them to, but not as much cos we don't petition as much imho.
     Seems to me it can happen to anyone at any time, and it's in everyone's interests to force FC into some kind of clarification and get them to stop this.

     Omni is already claiming tara again. I have no doubt our tl7 towers are next.

     Silirrion is talking about TLR 75% gas so toons of ppl shouldt be banned here since they werent here...

     There was absolutely nothing wrong with anything anyone did today at tower fights today.

     I'm really trying to get some answers in the forums, but Sil's dancing like mad. Can I get a list of the people who were online when the TLR site went directly to 25%?

     Ill killed TLR3 ct by ***** (+helps from *****'s 35 agent). Killed w/o any tricks, just came and shoots until ct be dead. Then relogged to ***** (he on same account) and placed. Its my fault if area sometimes not goes 25% after placing? Its very old bug, even wrote thread about 'fix it please' on game suggestion long time ago.

     no emails from FC

     I wasnt even online at the time of the attack on TLR so sil is full of s**t and obviously doesnt look into anything his gm lie to him about

     I think what probably happened is that the GM who investigated was an idiot, and overreacted, and didn't even bother to check whether the petition was about the current site or the site taken hours ago.

     I'm hoping that the long pause in Sil's responses now is because they are going back and looking at the logs and will correct that.

     definitely looks like they're stonewalling. :/

     This is, to me, either a case of a completely clueless GM who got rumbled by some clever omni, and now he can't go back, because GMs can never admit they did something wrong, OR a deliberate FUncom strategy for rebalancing Notum Wars. Could be either I guess, hard to tell.

     If I get my suspension lifted and an apology, I will return to the game. If not, then I'm done. Not gonna play a game where a GM can just remove you because he feels like it. I can fight monsters, I can fight omnis, but I can't fight GMs.

     *****, help me here. We need to nail him down to admitting that it was just the TLR site where the exploit happened. Once he admits that, we can point out the people who weren't online, but as long as he's hiding behind his vague statements, we have no leverage.

     "Trying to repeat an exploit, even if it fails, will get ya banned."
Is it possible that something at the CAV site looked like the 75% exploit? ie. did another org attack the site and do a significant amount of damage, then a second attack happen?

     no...

     I checked the logs back to the 27th Jul, it was only attacked the one time this morning, so no damage farming on that one.
     I'm hating reading Sil and other insisting we must all be cheats and know what we're doing :( Sil definately seems to be stalling. I don't think I've ever felt this dissapointed or upset with anything regarding AO :/

Subject: Protest regarding harassment of players by GMs
     I would like to protest in the strongest terms possible the suspension of the players Silq, Marlark, Revelator, Dark1947, Thell and several other Rimor Clanners, for reasons that have been completely fabricated by Funcom employees, specifically the unknown GM who did the suspensions and Sillirion, who keeps spreading lies on official forums about a situtation he knows nothing about, in a part of the game he knows nothing about.
     The accusation is that the banned players conspired to use a bug to place a Control Tower so that it would not go 25%, thus saving them from the trouble of defending it for 1 hour. This happened at Fate Notum Field in The Longest Road, which clanners commonly call TLR 3.
     First of all, this is a known random bug, unreproducable, that have been reported many times for several years now, ironically 2 of the banned players, Revelator and Brucelee2003, have done the most to get this bug fixed, without any result whatsoever, and certainly with no OMNI players suspended for doing the exact same thing. So clanners are left with the inevitable conclusion that the notum wars are now for omnis only, because this bug is random, and you never know when it can happen, and a tower isn't worth anything if you don't have an account to enjoy it with.
     Second, it is PROVEN that almost all of the suspended players were in fact NOT involved with TLR 3 at all, but were banned for actions that happened at Tetlies Land control area in Southern Artery Valley, commonly called SAV 1. They never hit TLR1, they weren't in the zone, they weren't even in the raidchat used, several of them weren't even online at the time. Yet every player who hit SAV 1 + Marlark who placed the Control Tower for Genesis got banned, and SAV 1 did go 25% when placed, in fact omnis took it back because all the defenders got banned.
     In other words, you banned a bunch of clanners for something that happened several hours before the GM went nuts with the ban bat, at a point in time where they were nowhere near TLR 3. So, the conclusion is clear: Whatever GM did this is either a hopeless incompetent, or evil. Your choice, but I assure you that unless the affected players, all of them, get their suspensions lifted, gets an apology from Funcom, and the responsible GM is removed from his position, then I shall be forced to cancel my accounts. Many already have over this, and it will turn into a mass exodus of clanners from Rimor if you do not do the right thing here.
Yours sincerely,

     Have any of my fellow bannies received any "direct" contact or explanation of what "exploit" we were banned for?

     None what so ever!!!

     ofc not

"He has no idea why they were banned. They don't even know themself. No point asking this 'community manager' about it."
     This I posted got deleted in 10 secs in the lor thread. Truth hurts.Also *****'s thread saying he'll quit because how his friends get treated got deleted within 2 mins.
They lost control.

     Well i know what im gonna do when they lift by ban .. due to it have absolutly no basis at all ..
     I am first of all gonna demand a public appology from funcom
     Secondly im gonna demand some compensation for the dmg they have done to my credability and reputation among the players..

     If I don't get my name cleared completely, and an apology, I am outta here. Not gonna be bitched like this, no sirree, not gonna spend my gametime looking over my shoulder, fearing a GM will ban my ass for no reason at all.

     I'd love to see these chat logs where I'm plotting with other clan on this supposed sploit.
Still pretty much beyond words atm, and every post by Sil is another kick in the guts

     I feel like Sil has given a few more details about the exploit, perhaps unintentionally. For instance, he said they would only ban by association if there were 100% chat logs. I'm assuming you guys didn't have anything like that!
     The only other possibility is that it's something that was explicitly done... but the procedure to get 75% by damage farming isn't actually something you luck into. Can any of you guys think of *anything at all* that could be their perverted rationale for this?

     Been wracking my brains and I honestly can't think of a thing. No such chat logs exist, my contribution to these public chats usually totals around 4 or 5 sentences as I'm too busy trying to keep up. We have gimpy logs anyways I would assume?
     Can't be damage farming as this was the first time that particular base was hit in the last few days.
     Can't be org switching as a couple of us didn't.
     Completely stumped...

     TLR 3 happened HOURS before SAV 1, yet the GM waited till SAV 1 to ban. We KNOW, 100% for sure, that SAV 1 went 25% after place, but TLR 3 didnt, coz its bugged. Doesn't that just scream of foul play from the GM? We KNOW he didnt see anything illegal at SAV 1, yet thats when he bans everyone who hits it plus ***** as placer.

[Tower Battle Outcome] : Notum Wars Update: Victory to the Omnis!!!
[Tower Battle Outcome] : The Omni organization Shadow Ops attacked the Clan Athen Paladins at their base in Perpetual Wastelands. The attackers won!!

     Oh weeee! Thank you very very much FC!

     Omni attacking Demon base now

     LoR topic on bans also got closed atm.............

     Now they are on Remedy EFP base, sad to see bases we took by hard fight drop like this...

     IF the placing bug is the reason, why would he wait for 3+ hours, and then ban a bunch of ppl unrelated to the bug? And there is no possibility of the Click.exe exploit used, since we specifically placed with dmg org, thus not needing any such thing. And anyways, we dont use Click.exe...
     6 bases, bam bam bam. The GM watched all of them, all 6 done the exact same way, coz we are pros, we know how to do this, hell I could do it in my SLEEP, all done the same way, he waited 3 hours then he unleashed the bannz0rs.
     You guys wanna know the nasty part? ***** was only involved in the last one, at SAV 1. All the rest he wasn't. He was in gimpybot, but he was only buffing, not DOING anything. By waiting for SAV 1, he got the shot at harming clan in the biggest way possible, by knocking out 4 major clan leaders (gen, nem, AO, DI), plus all of clans public bots.

[Tower Battle Outcome] Notum Wars Update: Victory to the Omnis!!!
[Tower Battle Outcome] The Omni organization Dark Front attacked the Clan Remedy at their base in Eastern Fouls Plain. The attackers won!!

     From what I've pieced together from Sil's woolly replies and *****'s posts, the exploit was something that was *attempted* but apparently failed.
There was some mention of not only one base going 75%, but that might have been rubbish.
     It seems to me the claim is clan were trying to exploit rather than succeeding, and we were all planning and plotting in this exploit (conspiring).
     What's beyond me though is
- I can't think of an exploit we were apparently trying to acheive, the damage farming one is out as the SAV base (the only one that matters imho as it's the only one we all were present and got banned on) was only attacked that once in the past few days.
- A couple didn't org hop, so that's not suddenly a new exploit
- What is Sil doing claiming chat logs exist to prove this conspiracy, when there most certainly aren't - you bet I will be demanding to see them when support get back to me.
     So it can only be for some exploit we're not aware of...?
     Something just doesn't add up at all here.

     I'm sick and tired of the moderators standing back while omni calls you guys exploiters... although in fact it's much worse that FC has done the same thing, and I think both have about the same justification.

[*****]: I would advise against the slandering of FC personnel
To [*****]: i don't care
To [*****]: i speak the truth
[*****]: Please stop or i'll speak to a GM regarding the matter.
To [*****]: i wont let any fc employees spread lies about my friends, and silirrion on forum is lying, wheather on his own or from beeing misguides by gm that did the bans